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		<title>Comment on A new challenge by Brisancian</title>
		<link>http://friendlyhumanist.net/2011/06/13/a-new-challenge/#comment-1287</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brisancian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 04:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fascinating concept. Love it.]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Duty and futility by bob davis</title>
		<link>http://friendlyhumanist.net/2013/02/02/duty-and-futility/#comment-1265</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bob davis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 16:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well thank you I apprieciate your kind words as I read your response.Who knows We can come to an understanding of each other as I say i dont try to convert. Excuse my punctuation I flunked english spanish and german if its a lanquage i flunk it. I have looked at various atheist websites there appears to be angry atheist, friendly, and even tolorant atheists. One of my bosses is an atheist we have a very friendly relationship She is nice to me and I am nice to her. I dont look down on her she is a human being.well where I came from. I was not looking at Christianity actually I was looking at eastern religions I was in a rock and roll band I was thinking that playing music was the ultamate thing to do what actually turned out was it was full of drugs the rock songs promoted drugs but inside I was looking for something better. I had a empty spot in my heart. I read everything I could get my hands on I was searching if I was at the launrymat I read JW matierial Iread self help books I was into self hypnosis which led me into edger cayce some of the stuff i learned helped for a while I even started thinking about UFO possibly saving this planet if it got too bad.My life was empty I was a Beatle freak and started looking into TM ifound by imagining a egg and thinking about its texture for twenty minutes you can get the same results as TM one night as I passed by a church it was wed night I was drinking and  depressed I listened to them sing hymns a voice told me come there was no one there so I went in I also accepted jesus through Billy Graham and I had great peace you would not believe it. I have walked with Jesus for over 30 years has it been easy no. I dont know what your life is like as we are new to each other I had a painful divorce wound up in a psych ward for  5150 I have been a single parent for the last 14 years and now my daughter has schizophrenia it has knocked the@#$% out of me but i have had my low times but jesus still gives me strength to do what I have to do and sometimes I dont know how its going to turn out. Now I realize that my faith is subjective to my experience. Sure I have looked at Atheism but for me I still believe in God. I  read a good article in wired Magizine on the New Atheism Dawkins Harris penn and teller and the writer who wrote the article was raised around Christianity and was agnostic was looking at both camps but was not ready to concede either way it was a good article. you might have read it have a good day I enjoyed you response thank you and I sahall call you TIM]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well thank you I apprieciate your kind words as I read your response.Who knows We can come to an understanding of each other as I say i dont try to convert. Excuse my punctuation I flunked english spanish and german if its a lanquage i flunk it. I have looked at various atheist websites there appears to be angry atheist, friendly, and even tolorant atheists. One of my bosses is an atheist we have a very friendly relationship She is nice to me and I am nice to her. I dont look down on her she is a human being.well where I came from. I was not looking at Christianity actually I was looking at eastern religions I was in a rock and roll band I was thinking that playing music was the ultamate thing to do what actually turned out was it was full of drugs the rock songs promoted drugs but inside I was looking for something better. I had a empty spot in my heart. I read everything I could get my hands on I was searching if I was at the launrymat I read JW matierial Iread self help books I was into self hypnosis which led me into edger cayce some of the stuff i learned helped for a while I even started thinking about UFO possibly saving this planet if it got too bad.My life was empty I was a Beatle freak and started looking into TM ifound by imagining a egg and thinking about its texture for twenty minutes you can get the same results as TM one night as I passed by a church it was wed night I was drinking and  depressed I listened to them sing hymns a voice told me come there was no one there so I went in I also accepted jesus through Billy Graham and I had great peace you would not believe it. I have walked with Jesus for over 30 years has it been easy no. I dont know what your life is like as we are new to each other I had a painful divorce wound up in a psych ward for  5150 I have been a single parent for the last 14 years and now my daughter has schizophrenia it has knocked the@#$% out of me but i have had my low times but jesus still gives me strength to do what I have to do and sometimes I dont know how its going to turn out. Now I realize that my faith is subjective to my experience. Sure I have looked at Atheism but for me I still believe in God. I  read a good article in wired Magizine on the New Atheism Dawkins Harris penn and teller and the writer who wrote the article was raised around Christianity and was agnostic was looking at both camps but was not ready to concede either way it was a good article. you might have read it have a good day I enjoyed you response thank you and I sahall call you TIM</p>
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		<title>Comment on Duty and futility by Timothy Mills</title>
		<link>http://friendlyhumanist.net/2013/02/02/duty-and-futility/#comment-1263</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timothy Mills]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 04:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Most people call me Tim, but I&#039;m happy with Timothy too if you like. To answer your last question, no: I don&#039;t find your words at all offensive.

To your earlier question: yes, I have all the answers I need, at least at the level of basic worldview. I&#039;m always working to learn more about how that plays out in my day-to-day life: how can I best apply my values of compassion and reason to the daily practice of living well? (Because reason is central to my values, I have to remain open to the possibility that any belief I have may be questioned. But that doesn&#039;t mean that I expect them to be overturned. It just means I must not run away from ideas that may challenge me.)

I would say that the greatest source of discontent with me is a failure of empathy. I often find it difficult to see why people believe (or even want to believe) many of the things that other worldviews promote. If I could understand my neighbours better, that would make me a more complete person. It would not, I think, make me agree with them any more, but it would be nice to see where they are coming from.

As with many who broadcast their ideas into the digital ether, I would be delighted if someone found my thoughts persuasive. But converting others is neither my goal nor my expectation.

I called my blog &quot;Friendly Humanist&quot;, not because I think I&#039;m a particularly friendly person, but because I want to remind myself how I want to approach the dialogue. I want people like you, Bob, to feel comfortable asking questions without fear of being dismissed or attacked as idiots. If you&#039;ve been reading the posts, you&#039;ll see that I&#039;m not sugar-coating things: if I think an idea is unworthy, I&#039;ll say so. But I won&#039;t go out of my way to ridicule a bad idea, and I try very hard not to reject the person even when I am rejecting an idea they propose.

The fact is, as you say, we need to live together in this world. I want you to understand me, so that I seem less strange and threatening to you; and I want to understand you, so that you seem less strange and threatening to me. If I can achieve those two things, then the blog is worthwhile.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most people call me Tim, but I&#8217;m happy with Timothy too if you like. To answer your last question, no: I don&#8217;t find your words at all offensive.</p>
<p>To your earlier question: yes, I have all the answers I need, at least at the level of basic worldview. I&#8217;m always working to learn more about how that plays out in my day-to-day life: how can I best apply my values of compassion and reason to the daily practice of living well? (Because reason is central to my values, I have to remain open to the possibility that any belief I have may be questioned. But that doesn&#8217;t mean that I expect them to be overturned. It just means I must not run away from ideas that may challenge me.)</p>
<p>I would say that the greatest source of discontent with me is a failure of empathy. I often find it difficult to see why people believe (or even want to believe) many of the things that other worldviews promote. If I could understand my neighbours better, that would make me a more complete person. It would not, I think, make me agree with them any more, but it would be nice to see where they are coming from.</p>
<p>As with many who broadcast their ideas into the digital ether, I would be delighted if someone found my thoughts persuasive. But converting others is neither my goal nor my expectation.</p>
<p>I called my blog &#8220;Friendly Humanist&#8221;, not because I think I&#8217;m a particularly friendly person, but because I want to remind myself how I want to approach the dialogue. I want people like you, Bob, to feel comfortable asking questions without fear of being dismissed or attacked as idiots. If you&#8217;ve been reading the posts, you&#8217;ll see that I&#8217;m not sugar-coating things: if I think an idea is unworthy, I&#8217;ll say so. But I won&#8217;t go out of my way to ridicule a bad idea, and I try very hard not to reject the person even when I am rejecting an idea they propose.</p>
<p>The fact is, as you say, we need to live together in this world. I want you to understand me, so that I seem less strange and threatening to you; and I want to understand you, so that you seem less strange and threatening to me. If I can achieve those two things, then the blog is worthwhile.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Duty and futility by bob davis</title>
		<link>http://friendlyhumanist.net/2013/02/02/duty-and-futility/#comment-1261</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bob davis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 23:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you prefer to be called Timothy or Tim? I am a Christian however i cannot convert anyone.I prefer to keep my faith to myself.I do not know you if I hung around in your circle i would be respectful of your beliefs we would probabably have a few laughs. If you are content with atheism i would not try and change your mind nor would i disrespect your point of view. We have to live on this great big rock, but it seems that you are still looking for answers and not getting them.Respectfully if you are content does that not mean you have all the answers you need? I once saw a movie called hell in the pacific there was only two actors in the movie one claimed he was a christian and the other was a buddhist they both did nasty things to each other then they decided they needed each other but they could not understand each other at the end the japanese guy saw pictures of japanese people being killed in a magazine he got upset the american got mad and wondered why he did not believe in jesus and a bomb came down and blew them both up. I am saying it did not change either ones mind . A blog is created for a reason is it for actual dialog or to spread ones ideas.  I hope you dont find what i am saying is offensive. Sincerely Bob]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you prefer to be called Timothy or Tim? I am a Christian however i cannot convert anyone.I prefer to keep my faith to myself.I do not know you if I hung around in your circle i would be respectful of your beliefs we would probabably have a few laughs. If you are content with atheism i would not try and change your mind nor would i disrespect your point of view. We have to live on this great big rock, but it seems that you are still looking for answers and not getting them.Respectfully if you are content does that not mean you have all the answers you need? I once saw a movie called hell in the pacific there was only two actors in the movie one claimed he was a christian and the other was a buddhist they both did nasty things to each other then they decided they needed each other but they could not understand each other at the end the japanese guy saw pictures of japanese people being killed in a magazine he got upset the american got mad and wondered why he did not believe in jesus and a bomb came down and blew them both up. I am saying it did not change either ones mind . A blog is created for a reason is it for actual dialog or to spread ones ideas.  I hope you dont find what i am saying is offensive. Sincerely Bob</p>
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		<title>Comment on Apps on belief by magia</title>
		<link>http://friendlyhumanist.net/2012/07/26/apps-on-belief/#comment-1260</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[magia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 13:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Białe istnieje bardzo dobry. Pytluje się w tym miejscu, iż owe najważniejszy sezon od czasu niepamiętnych czasów.
Jemu nie udało się scedować egzaminu. Roger wegetuje w roli mojego,
trenera - owe niesamowicie przyjemnie z jego strony internetowe, dlatego że znasz, jego osoba wydaje się w narciarskich kręgach okropnie grubą rybą.

Jane papla, iż wypracował bzika na moim 
punkcie, jednakowoż ja autentycznie nie planuję.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Białe istnieje bardzo dobry. Pytluje się w tym miejscu, iż owe najważniejszy sezon od czasu niepamiętnych czasów.<br />
Jemu nie udało się scedować egzaminu. Roger wegetuje w roli mojego,<br />
trenera &#8211; owe niesamowicie przyjemnie z jego strony internetowe, dlatego że znasz, jego osoba wydaje się w narciarskich kręgach okropnie grubą rybą.</p>
<p>Jane papla, iż wypracował bzika na moim<br />
punkcie, jednakowoż ja autentycznie nie planuję.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Duty and futility by Timothy Mills</title>
		<link>http://friendlyhumanist.net/2013/02/02/duty-and-futility/#comment-1259</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timothy Mills]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 20:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bob, I&#039;m quite content with atheism, and the humanist, skeptical worldview that it comes out of.

But just because I&#039;m comfortable with a belief doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s necessarily true. Being willing to question everything, and look for evidence &lt;b&gt;against&lt;/b&gt; my beliefs is an important part of being a rational, honest person.

It&#039;s difficult. That&#039;s the main point of this post. But it&#039;s important. That&#039;s life for you: many of the most important things are difficult.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, I&#8217;m quite content with atheism, and the humanist, skeptical worldview that it comes out of.</p>
<p>But just because I&#8217;m comfortable with a belief doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s necessarily true. Being willing to question everything, and look for evidence <b>against</b> my beliefs is an important part of being a rational, honest person.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s difficult. That&#8217;s the main point of this post. But it&#8217;s important. That&#8217;s life for you: many of the most important things are difficult.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Duty and futility by bob davis</title>
		<link>http://friendlyhumanist.net/2013/02/02/duty-and-futility/#comment-1258</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bob davis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 18:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what exactly are you tring to find ? Are you in some kind of crisis? Do you want to escape from athieism? What is your hurry?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what exactly are you tring to find ? Are you in some kind of crisis? Do you want to escape from athieism? What is your hurry?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Contending with Bart Ehrman by Timothy Mills</title>
		<link>http://friendlyhumanist.net/2013/04/29/contending-with-bart-ehrman/#comment-1257</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timothy Mills]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 14:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, just because an error is not doctrinally critical doesn&#039;t mean it can&#039;t tell us something about the copying process and its reliability.

It may be worth pointing out, however, that differences might not be errors as such. Once upon a time, people just used alphabets to sound things out. So if a scribe reads something they might say, &quot;hey, that was obviously written by a Gallileean&quot;, and when they transcribe it they will spell it according to their own pronunciation.

So spelling differences don&#039;t necessarily mean spelling errors - they might just reflect differences among scribes&#039; pronunciations.

But again, they still tell us something about the (un)reliability of textual transmission.

Thanks for your comment!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, just because an error is not doctrinally critical doesn&#8217;t mean it can&#8217;t tell us something about the copying process and its reliability.</p>
<p>It may be worth pointing out, however, that differences might not be errors as such. Once upon a time, people just used alphabets to sound things out. So if a scribe reads something they might say, &#8220;hey, that was obviously written by a Gallileean&#8221;, and when they transcribe it they will spell it according to their own pronunciation.</p>
<p>So spelling differences don&#8217;t necessarily mean spelling errors &#8211; they might just reflect differences among scribes&#8217; pronunciations.</p>
<p>But again, they still tell us something about the (un)reliability of textual transmission.</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Contending with Bart Ehrman by reasonablyskeptic</title>
		<link>http://friendlyhumanist.net/2013/04/29/contending-with-bart-ehrman/#comment-1256</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[reasonablyskeptic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 13:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find another thing interesting about the excerpt you used from Wallace:
&quot;Most of these differences are completely immaterial and insignificant. A good portion of them simply show us that scribes in antiquity could spell no better than most people can today (and they didn’t even have dictionaries, let alone spell check).&quot;

These scribes were copying text, not entering a spelling bee.  No dictionary required.  Text should be copied letter by letter from the previous manuscript(s).  This implies to me that even the spelling errors and text rearrangements tell us something significant about the non-critical changes.  They show a lack of credibility on the case of the scribes to produce an exact copy.

Whether intentionally (because the scribe thought the prose sounded better when rearranged) or unintentional (scribes got lazy on the job and misspelled a few hundred thousand words), it is overwhelmingly significant when one is arguing for textual infallibility (although it doesn&#039;t seem Wallace is going that far... perhaps he is sticking with textually &quot;close enough&quot;).

However, if we excuse spelling errors because, hey, scribes are people too, then what do we say about the translators?

------

Excellent post!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find another thing interesting about the excerpt you used from Wallace:<br />
&#8220;Most of these differences are completely immaterial and insignificant. A good portion of them simply show us that scribes in antiquity could spell no better than most people can today (and they didn’t even have dictionaries, let alone spell check).&#8221;</p>
<p>These scribes were copying text, not entering a spelling bee.  No dictionary required.  Text should be copied letter by letter from the previous manuscript(s).  This implies to me that even the spelling errors and text rearrangements tell us something significant about the non-critical changes.  They show a lack of credibility on the case of the scribes to produce an exact copy.</p>
<p>Whether intentionally (because the scribe thought the prose sounded better when rearranged) or unintentional (scribes got lazy on the job and misspelled a few hundred thousand words), it is overwhelmingly significant when one is arguing for textual infallibility (although it doesn&#8217;t seem Wallace is going that far&#8230; perhaps he is sticking with textually &#8220;close enough&#8221;).</p>
<p>However, if we excuse spelling errors because, hey, scribes are people too, then what do we say about the translators?</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Excellent post!</p>
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		<title>Comment on A perilous experiment? by Arnoldo</title>
		<link>http://friendlyhumanist.net/2009/06/22/a-perilous-experiment/#comment-1247</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arnoldo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2013 10:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fine quality is one incredibly significant 
features of French translation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fine quality is one incredibly significant<br />
features of French translation.</p>
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